The quality is very good, the service from Rhinoleather is second to none. The fit is generous, perhaps a bit over generous, I measured to a tightish fit (twice), and was 52" and a tiny bit. Ordered the 52" and it is a very loose fit. I'll keep them for winter for weaing over thermals / trackie dacks, and I have ordered a pair of the stretch at 50" so I'll see how we go. If only there was a short leg option! Not all big waist guys are build like André the Giant!